Island Man
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Thinking of visiting a Kingdom Hall after 20 years in disguise
by not bitter ini have been to my old kh for 2 funerals since i left 20 yrs ago but i don't think they count.
so i am thinking of visiting a different hall on a sunday for the public talk and wt study.
i want to go just to remind myself how simple minded it is and to hopefully help me appreciate how wonderful and free my life now is.
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Could rebaptism present a loophole for exiting without being shunned?
by Island Man inthis is how i imagine it can work: the baptized jw first gets the elders to acknowledge in written form that his previous baptism was in fact null and void.
* then later, coming close to baptism - preferably, the day of rebaptism - he changes his mind about being rebaptized (maybe he says no or remains silent when the questions are being asked, with this being video recorded).
so legally, he never was a legitimately baptized jw and therefore should not be anounced as "bro.
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Is John Barr's funeral talk at odds with New Light?
by Splash injohn barr served in the gb and died in dec 2010 at the age of 97.. in his funeral talk and the accompanying eulogy tract that was printed, is the final sentence:.
"without a doubt, he slept for but a moment in death and has now received his heavenly reward and his father's approval - all he ever wanted!".
given that the new light about being approved and appointed over all things is now a future event linked to the gt trib, was it correct to teach these things about brother barr at his funeral service?.
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A major change in the new song book I initially overlooked
by slimboyfat init occurred to me the other day that i am beginning to forget the tunes to all the old kingdom songs i once knew by heart.
so i have started recording myself singing a few of my favourites from the old song book and uploading them to youtube.
and it struck me as i was singing them how many of the old songs have a military theme running through them, with references to warfare, soldiers, weapons and so on.
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USA | Man Allegedly Fires Gun at a Group of Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks inusa, arkansas | man fires gun at a group of jehovah's witnesses.
centerton police arrested a man accused of firing close to 19 rounds at a group of jehovahs witnesses on saturday (sept. 28th).
john baldwin, 35, bonded out on $50,000 sunday morning.. according to a probable cause affidavit, three jehovahs witnesses approached baldwin in his front yard at rainbow farm road and baldwin told them, get your (explicit) off my property, i moved out here to get away from people like you.. the report states the jehovahs witnesses apologized and as they were getting in their car one of them heard get me my 9.. baldwin admitted to firing a gun at three jehovahs witnesses when they drove away from his house, according to the report.. baldwin was booked into benton county jail on felony charges of aggravated assault.. several of baldwins neighbors said he moved to the neighborhood less than a month ago.. kristi tidwell who lives nearby said she was home when police arrived at her neighbors home.. my husband and i were working around the house, we had the blinds open in the back we saw probably seven or eight cop cars pulling in there, tidwell said.
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A possible scenario :The fall of the REAL BABYLON the GREAT
by raymond frantz inwe all know how heavily indoctrinated is the average jw .in fact there is nothing that will prove to him/her that the gb is not god's channel or is there ?.
think about the following scenario that today seems possible and logical to happen in the near future : the watchtower is constantly telling us that in the future the start of the great tribulation will be the fall of babylon the great (that is the all false religion including so called christian denominations) then there will be an attack on god's people but what if the exact opposite is true ?.
the scenario : due to upcoming court cases conscerning pedophilia and other scandals the society goes bust and shuts operations as a corporation worldwide... and then nothing happens .the life continues as usual ,babylon the great is still standing and all other religions continue operation as they had before .also all jehovah's witnesses remain unaffected by their goverments without persecution or other impliccations.what would that tell the average jw?
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THE DIVORCE OF THE CENTURY!
by JW GoneBad inso there is a rumor going around about 1914 and its possible demise!.
i cant help but think of the many and i say many divorces (not to make light of the matter) that jw families have had to deal with among their ranks over the years.. however, knowing how long the wtbts and 1914 have been together and the thought of mother (wtbts) doing away with her man (1914) after nearly 100 years of marriage is truly heart breaking for some.
many old-timers probably still think of the old days when they were like any other happy couple; inseparable, always holding hands, romantic and the like.
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Could RUTHERFORD be the magic key to open blind minds?
by Muddy Waters inso, according to the new light, as presented at the agm (annual general meeting) last year in october 2012, (and being studied from the july 15/2013 wt in this month of september), whereby the faithful & discrete slave (fds) is now designated to mean the governing body only (and only when they come together as a group!!
haha, what rubbish!
) -- this is what i'm understanding:.
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Can anyone explain this reasoning?
by Honesty inwhen a jw goes from door to door on a daily basis, they are called pioneers and it is a good thing.. it is an act of love when they share their knowledge with householders.. .
however, if that pioneer learns more about the watchtower society's beliefs when compared with the bible and tries to share that knowledge with current members he is attacking his brothers and sisters and is mentally diseased.. when he shares his knowledge about the watchtower society's involvement with the un and other political entities with the brothers and sisters it is called an act of hate.. in both instances, we have similar actions and motivations but the watchtower society comes to completely different conclusions.. does it have anything to do with control or is it related to something else?.
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Judicial Meeting
by Kool Jo inso here you are...sitting with a couple of elders at judicial meeting, and you're asked the following question:.
"do you still believe that the fds is the channel that jehovah is using"?.
now is it possible to answer 'no' without being df, or how would you answer that question?.